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« on: January 05, 2009, 11:30:19 pm »

Spiritual Innovation and Spiritual Play

Why ideas should inspire the spiritual scientist.

Why and how ideas can change everything for anyone willing to play with them.

Why innovation is lacking in spirituality, even in those considered spiritual sciences,

why we should have innovation; the myth that this has always been the truth and no human can create something of equal or greater value, and this being why spiritual scientists must innovate to prove that humans can have the power to create their own spiritual theories, solutions, tools, technology, and rethink the old ways for a better future.

how we can get innovation into the spiritual path,
how spiritual play leads to novel relizations, and to innovations in the way we practice our spirituality.

why and how innovation and play could potentially excellerate growth and evolution on the spiritual path
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« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2009, 05:42:55 am »


why we should have innovation; the myth that this has always been the truth and no human can create something of equal or greater value, and this being why spiritual scientists must innovate to prove that humans can have the power to create their own spiritual theories, solutions, tools, technology, and rethink the old ways for a better future.


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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2009, 08:17:24 am »

A visionary - yes!
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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2009, 09:36:15 pm »

Don't get me wrong, I don't believe anything is possible. I do believe much more is possible than meets the eye or else of course I wouldn't be walking this path. I'm not so quick to look at the wheel and say, it works fine, gets me from point a to b in good time, when I could look at the wheel and say I wonder if there is a way to make it even better. Perhaps the car doesn't need wheels maybe I can redesign it to run on the magnetic lines of the planet or have it teleport.

Now this isn't about entertaining fantasies, but it is about seeing if there are other ways, dreaming big while staying realistic with a healthy ever expanding and deepening understanding of what is real, and never believing you don't have the power to create your reality to some degree. I like to imagine it as an optimistic stance, a positive spirituality ( to steal from positive psychology). This is also about constructive play, they have found play increases creativity. Many companies now encourage play in the office, some major companies have even designed their offices for fun. So...well for now I'll just say: play why not? 

It isn't so much about doing new things; though I hope to discover new grounds, and walk down new roads. I accept the highly likely possibility that there is really little that is new under the sun. But maybe I will uncover things long forgotten, or stretch my wings deep into territories of seeing unheard of by the modern seer. My only real goal at this point though is to show people that with the right usage of their own faculties that can cut back dramatically on how much they relay on external sources for their learning about paths of growth and evolution. Krishnamurti felt that we didn't need books, and teachers, yet he himself was in a sense a teacher, even though he claimed to not want to be such, he still taught that people didn't need to be taught, thus he was a teacher and in some senses a contradiction of his own teachings. I believe we need external assistance to some degree, but there should from the beginning of seeking be strong focus on developing ones own faculties so as to not need external help as much. Even a master may likely need to look to other masters from time to time, and may likely even learn from his or her students, but there should be a much greater level of ability in self-reliance. And also a very high level of interpretive ability when it comes to all levels of knowledge and knowingness.

What I'm focusing on here is how through attempting to innovate ones own approaches we may discover and create things much more quickly than had we relied on external sources. Also the act of creating keeps one's magical cloak strong, and increases a sense of self-confidence.

If you look at the new age movement of today there is a strong focus on creating ones own rituals and techniques what I hope to do is take that further by providing solid tested and testable insights into what works best. Not to tell people what to do or what not to do, not to discourage someone from stepping out on a limb and trying something different, but simply pinning down various key things that I and others have found tend to work.

In normal educational institutions we have a problem that teachers don't know how to teach every student and not every student knows how to learn in the way that is best for them, as a result you have a certain set of people who do well and others who do not. It may not be possible to get all the people learning really well all the time, but perhaps if we could at least improve on a reasonable number of them then we could say that maybe our approaches to teaching and learning were of value. I see a similar problem in the spiritual circles I radiate to, there are some people who do really well really quickly and others who do not, and there are several noticeably problems that could be more adequately addressed that would improve things, but these steps don't seem to be being taken in any of the circles I hang out in. For instance communication, there is almost always a communication problem. This isn't to say that some good advice isn't frequently given on how to solve this problem, but often there isn't enough different kinds of good advice, and because communication problems are such an abundant problem there should in every discussion forum of the kind I am talking about be a section specifically devoted to communication. As a matter of fact I would like to suggest that we open such a section in this very forum so as to save ourselves from unneeded miscomunication problems.

Communication section would deal with: Techniques and approaches to sensing the energy behind the words,
Getting a deeper understanding of the meanings of words (we would discuss words themselves, there meanings, their power, the strengths and limitation etc etc, including how to write and speak more clearly, so that we can be impeccable with out word/s), a section were we would post our own personal definition of various common terms; like the word self and what does that mean to me when I say it? There is Jung's interpretation of Self, there is Freud's, there is the Higher Self and the many different perspectives on that, Gurdjieff's view on the essense of self, and the false personality, how the Buddhists view the self as transient, and so many more, what is your interpretation?
There would need to be a section where we would practice simply understanding each other well, and various tools we could use to do that.
There are many approaches to language, some are orthodox and some are not, any approach can be acceptable, that key to the communication section is that we learn to understand each others communications better.
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« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2009, 10:13:13 am »

Hello Nai!

Nice to see you and thanks for this. 

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For instance communication, there is almost always a communication problem. This isn't to say that some good advice isn't frequently given on how to solve this problem, but often there isn't enough different kinds of good advice, and because communication problems are such an abundant problem there should in every discussion forum of the kind I am talking about be a section specifically devoted to communication. As a matter of fact I would like to suggest that we open such a section in this very forum so as to save ourselves from unneeded miscomunication problems.

Communication section would deal with: Techniques and approaches to sensing the energy behind the words,
Getting a deeper understanding of the meanings of words (we would discuss words themselves, there meanings, their power, the strengths and limitation etc etc, including how to write and speak more clearly, so that we can be impeccable with out word/s), a section were we would post our own personal definition of various common terms; like the word self and what does that mean to me when I say it? There is Jung's interpretation of Self, there is Freud's, there is the Higher Self and the many different perspectives on that, Gurdjieff's view on the essense of self, and the false personality, how the Buddhists view the self as transient, and so many more, what is your interpretation?
There would need to be a section where we would practice simply understanding each other well, and various tools we could use to do that.
There are many approaches to language, some are orthodox and some are not, any approach can be acceptable, that key to the communication section is that we learn to understand each others communications better.

This is a great idea.  Practising communication and understanding is definitely important--
honing our listening skills, too.   A section on the forum dedicated to these things is a great idea.  I've put it in the pipe.... smoking it.
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« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2010, 03:35:01 pm »

Hello Nai!

Nice to see you and thanks for this. 

This is a great idea.  Practising communication and understanding is definitely important--
honing our listening skills, too.   A section on the forum dedicated to these things is a great idea.  I've put it in the pipe.... smoking it.


creating a big smoke screen on great spirits' behalf?


\!! so at least i know to where i was abducted....

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