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Terrence Mckenna - Schizophrenic or shamanic?

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« on: August 30, 2013, 01:10:02 pm »

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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2013, 06:06:34 pm »

Agreed, when you open the doors by the use of substances you are walking a very slippery slope.  Once open, the doors rarely close again and, unlike doing it naturally, when you force this, by using mind expanding substances, your body, mind, spirit, and heart may not be ready for the shifts, so you can't predict what will occur or how you will respond to it.
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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2013, 11:14:00 pm »

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1) i'm not familiar enough with all of his publications. certainly not in an academic "sense".

2) to which extent was the hippie movement a political statement as well?

3) there's a catch 22* on slippery slope, imho: to which extent are patients allowed (by whomever, "powers that be"?) to understand reason and nature of their "disease" / "discomfort"?
"slippery slope" is just another affliction, and probably even harder to cure, imho.

put another way: identifying individual cognitive deficits as well as the collective trauma that contributed to their existence? my shamanic right brain would (dutifully!) awaken the moment that my science-oriented** left brain ran out of food.




* http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Catch-22

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"back to nature" (european-style enlightenment) would still have to inquire about christian influences on its natural evolution. excessive egoism vs. compassionate altruism. what went wrong, and - more interestingly - why? good morning, philosophia!
on the other hand, indigenous peoples might have been following simple ethics in perfect sync with nature, which the belligerent european evolution would simply fail to even recognize.

oftentimes i wonder whether "westerners" would not rather need less chemical tampering with their bodies if they could have easy access to good lawyers who'd fend for their unconditional right to existence.



seen skygod yesterday looking more like this (humble acknowledgement)....


.... or where should love have its true origin?


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« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2013, 04:39:27 am »

http://dreamflesh.com/essays/shamanism/

http://altreligion.about.com/od/alternativereligionsaz/a/shamanism.htm

http://www.kon.org/urc/v8/wilkins.html

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http://www.successfulschizophrenia.org/stories/nightsky.html


http://ibbey3000.blogspot.de/2012/05/shamanism-vs-schizophrenia.html
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« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2013, 01:58:34 am »


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Probably neither. I think he was more of a hippie who explored the psychadelics, and thought they could lead to enlightenment.

I dont know about full enlightenment, but they can open doors to the mind. I have known many folks who have used them and not been the same since. I wont try them, well hey, Im bipolar so I could do a lot of damage. But I dont advise to folks because if they do damage this could hurt the potential for enlightenment. He does have some interesting writings however, so doesnt hurt to explore, But I definitely would not wish to make myself a human guinea pig like he did.

I wonder why you come here as a teaching robot.

Maybe it's my perception that have been painted from the restless thread.

 Smiley

Terrence 'opened' the door for many. He was an explorer and a pioneer, experimenting for many
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« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2013, 03:11:17 am »

Good links lavender. I think its more about how he puts the argument together then what he stands for. He has found the words.
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« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2013, 04:41:39 am »

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whatever each of us may be uttering, it has a more or less clear context.
more clearly shamanic?
more openly schizophrenic?

terrence mckenna has found words from the well of compassion and i41 want to thank the great spirit for enabling such during times of need.

http://books.google.de/books?id=fzSP6BRFBzIC&pg=PA375&lpg=PA375&dq=terence+mckenna+esalen&source=bl&ots=zpC9fmCF-c&sig=_NIl_byrvT04pDAdNMDu6VXSfG0&hl=de&sa=X&ei=NQwjUs2XPNCGswbSsYH4Dg&ved=0CHIQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=terence%20mckenna%20esalen&f=false








in other words: what would be allowed into the package of this "religion of no religion?"
not wishing gramma (and her non-linear evolution) to hell, no?
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« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2013, 06:29:25 am »

http://www.toddcaldecott.com/index.php/healing/conditions/248-schizophrenia


http://www.freewebs.com/yvonnenahat/excerptinitiation.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juha_Pentik%C3%A4inen









old school? new school?

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« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2013, 09:56:22 am »

sorry, I can't stay here due to lavender,

don't take it personally lavender.

To much info streams.

It's a matter of health    Smiley




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« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2013, 10:13:06 am »

"Fright never injures anyone" ― Carlos Castaneda

then you must be the exception confirming the rule?

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« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2013, 10:18:58 am »

"Fright never injures anyone" ― Carlos Castaneda

then you must be the exception confirming the rule?



I cannot understand.

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« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2013, 10:21:48 am »


Fright never injures anyone.

who told you that
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« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2013, 10:22:19 am »

I cannot understand.



that can be helped. 

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« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2013, 10:43:25 am »



I cannot understand.


that can be helped. 



Lavender,
Not really. Not want it to be helped that's why I 'm leaving the forum


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« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2013, 10:50:56 am »

http://image.slidesharecdn.com/friendship-100213035809-phpapp01/95/slide-1-728.jpg?1266055130
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/alibi-agencies-help-germans-create-and-maintain-double-lives-a-917840.html


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http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/netzpolitik/proteste-am-dagger-complex-laternenzug-gegen-die-zur-nsa-a-919761.html
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